01.01.07
My Intentions and Motives on the Footage
A few people showed concern about the motives and intentions behind my posting of the hanging. No one is enjoying his hanging. People are relieved and happy that an oppressor has met justice. Again, no one is celebrating his actual method of death. I personally feel at ease. He burned entire families alive in the southern and northen Iraq. He gassed his own people until suffocation and left their bodies to rot, so the vultures can feast on them. He persecuted and imprisoned anyone who even dream to practice any ritual/tradition that was affiliated with Shi’i. Over a 100 Shi’i and Kurdish scholars were martyed under his era. His demise is a time of relief and reflection. Actually, in my opinion, he actually should have gotten more for the atrocities he committed, but Allahu alim. And for those who say “…but he is a Muslim”, Yazeed (l) was also a “Muslim,” but he martyed and starved the Prophet’s family. Furthermore, Saddam never showed any signs of repetence or regret. As we all know the hypocrites in God’s eye are worse than the un-believer.
We are simply celebrating justice prevailing.
Jaas Said:
January 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm
I’m glad you posted the video. It was the first place I saw it.
naqvia Said:
January 2, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Jaas,
Cool. I’m glad you’re glad
. Anyway i sent you a message.. check it (fb)!
Ali Said:
January 2, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Jaas,
OT, send me an e-mail at ali [at] oppression.org. My package to you was returned.
Wa Salaam,
Ali
malangbaba Said:
January 2, 2007 at 8:31 pm
As Salaam u Alaikum,
there is no doubt that Saddam was a tyrant and a murderer. there is also no evidence that he repented for his actions.
Having said that though, there is no doubt that the METHOD in which this trial and execution was carried is unjust. How can there be justice when a foreign army invades on false pretenses, removes the existing government illegally, and puts the head of state on trial while the country is still occupied. There can NEVER be a fair trial while a country is unoccupied. And while we may not care much about Saddam, this sets a dangerous precedent in that it shows that for the US/UK, the sovereignity of third world countries is easily dispensable. they can use this same logic and method to get rid of Iranian and Venezuelan (and anybody else that disagrees with them) leadership.
Was not the one of the judges removed because the US didn’t like his comments? Were not 3 of the Saddam’s lawyers kidnapped and killed? Why was Saddam only tried for certain crimes, specifically those that did not implicate US, European, and other Arab complicity?
In a growing sectarian conflict in Iraq, do you think it is a coincidence that he was executed on the day Eid for the Sunnis of Iraq? How would we feel if a Shia leader, whether we liked him or not, was assassinated on Eid? And then allow sectarian thugs to carry out the execution? Do we not remember the instructions of Imam Ali (as) in how to carry out the execution of his assassin?
In no way was this trial just or fair.
I am reminded of the story of Imam Ali (as) fighting an enemy in the battlefield. Imam Ali (as) knocked him down to the ground and was about to kill him when the man spit in his face. The Imam lowered his sword and walked away. the man ran after him and asked why, and Imam Ali (as) replied to the effect that he was fighting him for the cause of Justice, and if he would not want to kill him out of personal anger.
I don’t disagree with the death of Saddam. But I do disagree with the trial, method of execution, and the shameful display of celebration shown by many Shias.
May Allah guide us to Justice.
May Allah hasten the Rise of our Imam!
malangbaba Said:
January 2, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Two thinks to think about the sectarian dimension of this (from which only the occupiers benefit):
1. http://almusawwir.org/2007/01/02/sectarianism/
2. Ay. Fadhlullah’s statement on Eid:
“Some countries are trying to exploit yesterday’s execution of the dictator Saddam Hussein in order to provoke discord between Sunnis and Shiites.
Beware of such discord because it’s what the Americans want — seeking revenge on the Muslim world and the destruction of Islam by launching a cultural, political, economic and security war.”
naqvia Said:
January 2, 2007 at 11:29 pm
malangbaba,
Wa ‘alaykum asalaam wa rahmatullah,
I agree with most of what you have stated. His time of execution was definately planned and was intentionally strategical and was to the advantage of yet another Oppresor, the occupying forces. We all know why, though. For some of the reasons you listed and because if we had continued with the hearings and accounts for his other crimes, we all know very well where the blame would lie… notably the United States and Britain.
And when you mean method, what do you mean? Under a purely Shari’a based system he would have been hanged as well. And in regards to the excessive celebrations, I do not think we have much to celebrate for, because there are hundreds of people dying in Iraq as we speak. We need to understand that the execution of Saddam does not entail an end to his ideals (”pan-arabism” by any means neccessary). We must attack the roots.
However, at the same time, we need to realize that there were those people who suffered greatly. Whom had their families burned alive, and murdered ruthlessly by this tyrant, so it is normal for them to celebrate, regardless if its right or wrong. It’s different when we put ourselves in their shoes (not saying you’re wrong, but simply trying to explain a concept).
May Allah hasten the re-appearence of our final Imam, the grandson of the Prophet (a), Imam al-Hujjah Mohammad al-Mahdi (a), so that Justice prevails.
altaf Said:
January 2, 2007 at 11:29 pm
I agree with malangbaba -
I have been trying to work through what this execution means - and have not arrived at a conclusion …
I do agree with Prez. Ahmadinejad: “”What became of Saddam is a big lesson for many countries. World powers are the true evil in this world” and “depending on the U.S. and tyrants never has a good outcome” and… “Those who till yesterday were supporting Saddam and encouraged him into the 8 year war against us, now are trying to enforce their illegitimate placement by creating division in Iraq. They are even using Saddam’s execution as an excuse to create division in Iraq,” …
The question now, what next? Are we going to go further into the depths of sectarianism? From everything I’ve been reading so far… that seems to be the direction we are headed.
Ali Said:
January 3, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Salaamun ‘Alaikum,
Let’s keep in mind that it was Allawi’s employee that released the video.
Wa Salaam,
Ali
amel Said:
January 3, 2007 at 10:43 pm
I agree with abbas.. couldn’t have stated it any better, mashaallah!
i’m disgusted by the way his execution was carried out. the man himself was a horrible human being and i shed no tears for him, but his death feel somehow incomplete and hypocritical… there were others complicit who will never face trial… plus he was killed when sunnis were celebrating their eid, which is incredibly offensive and not a way to help unite and move the country forward.